propaganda must not concern itself with what is best in man…

– Propaganda: the Formation of Men’s Attitudes by Jacques Ellul. You can read it here.

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Whether its the Church of Scientology, Synanon, The Unification Church, the Catholic League/Catholic Church, the CIA, or MI6, people that act as “agents” (someone acting on the behalf of, in concert with or for the benefit of) such organizations and groups, do run intelligence operations against their “enemies”.

Propaganda is an important part of such operations, and usually carries a narrow list of repetitive “ideas” that both the target and those watching are supposed to BELIEVE.

Have a look at the following items and how closely they conform to that idea of an orchestration of the delivery of one or more repetitive messages.

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Comments section, Briefing from the Shack, Mark Rathbun blog, May 22, 2010

(Excerpted comment by Alanzo) | May 23, 2010 at 12:07 pm

As heads of the Church for decades, Marty [Rathbun] and Mike [Rinder] both have intimate knowledge of the Church and of all their corrupt operations. Helping the authorities can only make Scientology stronger – if Scientology is not built on crime.

So why not help?

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Mark Rathbun responds –  Caveat: Presumably. I say presumably it’s Rathbun because apparently at one point Mike Rinder (or ?) sometimes handled Rathbun’s blog so could have been one of them.

martyrathbun09 //

Allen, “So why not help”? Put the reefer down for a moment, have a strong shot of coffee, and examine what’s been going down.

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DRUGGIE

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A month later –

johnny d // June 26, 2010 at 6:05 pm | Reply

Marty and Mike,

I know I am off topic but this has been troubling me and would like it cleared.


Would you care to comment on the accusations of Mike and Virginia McClaughry?


They accuse the two of you (along with other OSA folks) of orchestrating their removal from the church and
subsequent Black PR campaigns against them and their children back in 1998.

Their crime you ask? Non other then exposing the same squirreled tech that you
are now speaking out against, exposing the sixth month check on OT-7′s, the alterations to Axiom 3 and deletions to PDC Tape 20 and so on.

They were trying to save the tech and apply KSW and YOU made their lives miserable.


My intention here is not to “enturbulate” , I am honestly interested and
eager to hear what you have to say about this.

Marty, I understand your need to moderate and censor but I believe anyone in or out
would be interested in what you two have to say concerning these accusations.

Please follow the link below to Mr.McClaughry’s blog entry, it brings up many interesting
circumstances and questions.

https://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/2010/06/19/marty-rathbun-and-mike-rinder/

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Mark Rathbun (presumably) responds –

martyrathbun09 // June 26, 2010 at 9:07 pm | Reply

johnny d, if that is what they allege, I suggest you check out the grade of dope they are smoking.

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DRUGGIE

A couple months later –

(reference – see this post)

August of 2010 –

As part of a black intelligence operation in cahoots with Karen de la Carriere, a woman named Nancy Many (a self-professed former scientology intelligence operative) introduced my son to the Ex-Scientologist internet forum, where he immediately began carrying out the same basic propaganda under the guise of “his experiences growing up in scientology” – most of which never happened, by the way. The real focus was to attack me, and try to enforce public agreement with the same desired views towards me.

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Not Important

Ineffective

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The same month –

Mark Rathbun (presumably) comments about Alanzo again  –

martyrathbun09 | August 15, 2010 at 9:52 pm |

I think Allen thinks way too highly of himself. He keeps accusing me of not disclosing ops on him. Never even heard of the guy. You gotta be one hell of a lot more effective to be an ops target. He just is far too ineffective with his victimhood. He needs to come up the tone scale.

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Not Important

Ineffective

Mentally ill

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Fast forward.

2013

Private facebook message from my son’s facebook account to my daughter about me trying to turn her against me.

  • …I talked to a bum on the street who was crazy paranoid and he sounded exactly like her.
  • …it’s all just so crazy and unbelievable.
  • Yeah, I think she is crazy… Nobody down here cares about her at all. They …want nothing to do with her.
  • making themselves an issue when they really aren’t at all.

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Not Important

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Mentally ill

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Summer 2014.

Blog comment left using my son’s email account.

      • …It’s really sad what you’ve become
      • …it just makes me sick seeing how you think
      • …you’re egotistical narcissistic self
      • you really have minimal impact and are not very important at all..

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Email from my son to me –

        • …you are wasting your life away on a mountain writing random insane dribble on a blog that anyone with half a brain anyone can find innumerable holes in.
        • you produce nothing of value, you spread hate fear and manipulation.
        • you’re just going to die and all the pain you went through will be meaningless.
        • …best wishes to you on your recovery or your inevitable confrontation with …death.

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Private facebook message from my son to my daughter  – his sister – trying to turn her against me  –

        • She [mom] is nothing to me.
        • If she died I would not care at all and have felt nothing but relief from being away from her all these years.

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Not Important

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Mentally ill

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One month later –

Video from October of 2014 – Church of Scientology staff waylay Mark Rathbun at the airport, conduct a public shaming. Mark was there in L.A. filming with Louis Theroux.

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          • You’re an embarassment.
          • …embarrassing and pathetic. Disgusting… you look terrible.
          • …such a loser.
          • …You’ve had zero effect, none. And nobody gives a fuck about you.
          • You’re nothing.
          • Nobody cares. Nobody’s interested. You’ve done nothing. No one gives a crap.
            • Go live a life. Why don’t you get a life, man. Just get a life.
            • …Why don’t you just stop committing suppressive acts and live a real life.
            • …Why don’t you just end it and start living a decent life and do something to help mankind.

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Not Important

Ineffective

Mentally ill

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Two months later –

25 December 2014 – Christmas Day – Virginia’s son brought out to internet forum to attack again. See: Help!! part 2.

Most of the comments are aimed at portraying my husband and I as:

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Not Important

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My daughter later showed up and defended us and we were ALL BANNED. Ergo – Anyone who goes against or disrupts the Controlled Narrative? Equals banned.

But, she is then approached and manipulated behind the scenes and turns shortly thereafter. She doesn’t know I knew about it.

Two months later –

February 2015 –

Son is approached by “a prominent blogger” to “write a guest post about his experiences in Scientology” on “his site” – aka the Tony Ortega/Mike Rinder crowd wanted him to attack us in public at their blog(s) with the usual things which are –

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Not Important

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Mentally ill

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Two days later, daughter encourages son (to write against us) “for that blog

                          • Just do it.
                          • just get. it. done.

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Note: I only found out about this attempt to have my son be PROMINENTLY featured and attacking me well after the fact, but it may interest readers to know that in April of 2015 I apparently inadvertently derailed this whole thing because I helped Tony Ortega get Jerry Levin/Don Alverzo properly identified for Paulette Cooper and for Tony’s book. Wouldn’t have done for him (or anyone else in the Karen de la Carriere camp)  to be having my son attacking me at the time when I just cracked that case for him, Right? Right.

April 7, 2015 –

Actress Carmen Llewelyn makes some statements that are lauded at Mike Rinder’s blog –

April 9, 2015 at 11:30 pm – excerpted

This is the best comment section ever. Its so nice to see a little civility here.

…I liked reading everyone’s comment’s especially the ones that addressed the idea of treating people still in scn with how you’d want to be treated. I’m sure everyone here has seen some of the absurdity being said these days by scientologists so called opinion leaders. I’m very familiar with how these guys can be heartless and helpless at the same time.

…Bigotry isn’t exposing the truth.

But then  –

Carmen found out about what Tony Ortega had said about her publicly and contacts me  (see December 2015). She was quite upset about her treatment by Ortega and others (such as Karen De La Carriere) – how she is ignored basically and that after one phone call with Ortega some time ago (which she thought went well) Ortega wouldn’t talk with her about an interview after that or barely give her the time of day. As far as I can tell, what this was really about is that she mentioned black intelligence operations against her. Tony’s attitude then became exactly the same towards her as the comment by the Carriere narrative controller towards Alanzo ie: Carmen wasn’t “effective” enough to “be a target”.

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Not Important

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Meanwhile now that Tony’s book tour was mostly done –

November 14, 2015 –

Karen de la Carriere trashes Mike McClaughry and then bans his book in her private group. (exposed in 2016 by whistleblower Scott Gordon)

(typos included as Karen made them)

Karen De La Carriere to Scott Gordon
Please do not link Mike Mclaughry’s hallucinations and delusions to this group. Whilte he might have a nugget of truth here and there, he has so much fantasy and lunatic fringe ramblings, that it is not for this group.

Karen De La Carriere (continued two minutes later)
Scientology Inc is bad enough with enough truthful stories without going off the deep end into rubbish, Tony Ortegs is the reference point. If Tony never quotes Mike McCiaughry you can bet there is a good reason.

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Not Important

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18 December 2015 –

Carmen finds out about Ortega’s 2014 attack on her credibility which had been posted on another forum by “Communicator IC”  – a pseudonym that appears to be tightly connected to the De la Carriere/Ortega contingent.

Tony’s sudden desire to “lessen” Carmen to his readers, is apparently in response to Carmen having just then (December 2014) had a great piece published about her in Radar magazine.

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Not Important

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January/February 2016 –

Carmen Llewelyn starts speaking out about Ortega’s attack, asking for him to apologize for mis-representing their phone interview. She creates her own blog in March.

Fast Forward –

September 14 – 2016

Attacks by anonymous sock-puppet twitter account called “Marty Rathbun OSA” – launches a black propaganda campaign of calling us “suspicious Black PR Operatives” basically because Mark Rathbun blocked some of the Karen De la Carriere controlled narrative contingent from being able to post nasty comments about us at his blog.

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September 22, 2016 –

Nasty blog posting about the McClaughry’s from their same daughter mentioned earlier –

                        • this imaginary quest you think you are on…
                        • your corrupted way of thinking
                        • your verbal abuse
                        • you, Mom, have a terrible ego
                        • You need help…too bad that you are too arrogant to ever admit it
                        • You were incredibly abusive to us
                        • verbally assaulting us
                        • Your mental illnesses got in the way …
                        • lived on top of a mountain MILES away from everyone.
                        • leave me alone

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Not Important

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November 30, 2016 –

Recap: Actress Carmen Llewelyn was marginalized and implied to be “crazy” by journalist Tony Ortega. Per Carmen, Ortega actually lied about her on a highly public forum, as well.

During the time of the Leah Remini A & E show in late 2016, Carmen reached out to Mike Rinder through Twitter, asking for his help in taking Ortega to task.

Mike Rinder’s response?

Have you tried a therapist or counselor expert in cults?

Notice the difference in Rinder since April of 2015 before Carmen came out against Tony Ortega’s behavior towards her.

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Carmen’s response (which Rinder doesn’t answer)?

I don’t like it that you pretend you don’t know abt Tony Ortega shaming me for speaking out.

Correctly calling out Mike Rinder for his portraying Carmen’s concerns as –

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Not Important

Mentally ill

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Five months later –

February 13, 2017

Mike Rinder attacks the McClaughry’s work –

Dchoice to Rinder February 13, 2017 at 9:03 pm

Something I read online. “When Ron Hubbard was a teenager Ian McBean recruited him for British intelligence. They groomed Hubbard to be a front man for their subjects of Dianetics and Scientology. ”

This was apparently in relation to a few months tour with McBean through Asia including China.

https://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/the-reading-library/scientology/scientology-roots/scientology-roots-introduction/

I for one would like to know if the above is fully factual or dots connect with the use of conjecture or prevarication.

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Mike Rinder responds –

February 13, 2017 at 9:08 pm

That’s conspiracy theory idiocy. They “groomed him to be a front man”… So laughable not even worthy of further commengt.

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Not Important

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Less than three weeks later –

March 5, 2017 –

The same daughter that was banned for defending her parents and not agreeing with the controlled narrative, was allowed to post at the same internet forum – because she was now attacking us.

This is clear evidence that there is only one narrative allowed about the McClaughry’s at that discussion forum – and it ain’t how good they are. Some day, when all things are rectified and all the dust settles, we should thank our daughter for proving this in such an incredibly clear way.

    • Hello, a few months back [Virginia note: it was almost two years earlier] I was here defending my parents.
    • …my brother was being truthful for the most part
    • … just trying to get their approval.
    • … just too scared to admit the truth.
    • The truth that my parents are very mentally sick and paranoid people.
    • …are now holed up in their house
    • worrying about what they’ll do to me

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One of the nastier resident narrative controllers answers our daughter –

JustSheila –

  • Your parents think everyone is an agent who disagrees with them.
  • See paranoid-delusion
  • …hasn’t helped their condition.
  • before you take any further action to try to support them.
  • Delusional people can be psychologically harmful to others.
  • I wish you and your brothers and sisters all the best and hope you will all one day be completely reunited [Virginia note: minus Mike and I, of course]

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Not Important

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What do ALL these things have in common?

or maybe better put as who…

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Do you see it?

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…propaganda must not concern itself with what is best in man — the highest goals humanity sets for itself, its noblest and most precious feelings. Propaganda does not aim to elevate man, but to make him serve.

– Propaganda: the Formation of Men’s Attitudes by Jacques Ellul. You can read it here.

Join the conversation! 1 Comment

  1. I do see it.

    Reply

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